Nov 19 2008

Billy Corgan!

Published by at 3:00 am under Crappy Music,Jerks

WOW, did I ever just witness something! I didn’t even realize the Smashing Pumpkins were still a band when I was offered a free ticket (a very good ticket) tonight. I figured it would at least be decent. It’s their 20th anniversary and I live in Chicago, their friggin’  hometown.

Instead, myself and a thousand other EXTREMELY patient fans were treated to the most bloated, self-indulgent, egomaniacal, boring, never-ending guitar solo, jamming, noodle fest. This was big baby Billy Corgan’s official “fuck you” to the people who supported him for 20 years. He was downright rude and unbelievably arrogant throughout the entire concert. We had to suffer through 30-minute songs and 15-minute guitar solos. The audience was given thumbs down by Billy when he asked us to sing “Today” and apparently it wasn’t to his liking. Billy proclaimed himself to be the “king of rock and roll” and “the god of metal” and then challenged us to “die for rock and roll.” Fuck off. We had to watch him play the fucking kettle drums for 15 minutes before they finally ended the show with a chorus of Kazoos. Ha ha, fuck you audience! They refused to play any recognizable songs. When the audience became restless, Billy said “Last time I checked we were an alternative band.” Check again Billy, you are playing an expensive show in one of the swankiest theaters in the country and the audience is made up of 40 year olds who arrived from the suburbs in minivans.

I’m not a super fan so I actually thought it was entertaining to watch Billy act like a big baby all night but I genuinly felt bad for the people who paid a lot of money to watch a rich kid have a temper tantrum. It was the most ridiculous concert I have ever seen.

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23 comments to “Billy Corgan!”

  1. Lon 19 Nov 2008 at 6:00 am

    The same thought passed through my mind when I noticed they were coming to town. My coworker had tickets to go see them, and she must have had similar sentiments about the show because she texted me at one in the morning to tell me all about it. Can’t say I was every a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan to begin with, but I can’t really say it’s surprising that Billy Corgan would be an arrogant little turd.

  2. Creature of Habiton 19 Nov 2008 at 7:34 am

    Billy was in front of me & some friends in line to go see PJ Harvey at the Riviera ages ago (or the Vic, I can’t remember). On one hand it was cool that at first he waited in line (alone) with everyone else. On the other hand he started acting like a turd – shouting and ranting and making a general spectacle. He’s about 17′ tall and bald, he’s already a spectacle.

    Finally he just went to the front of the line and went right in.

    Once a turd, always a turd.

  3. Peteon 19 Nov 2008 at 8:41 am

    The most ridiculous concert I have ever seen was last weekend. It was a Sisters of Mercy show. They’re an industrial-psuedo goth group who were big in the 1980s. Anyway, their singer is an egomaniac. He made the venue turn off all their overhead TVs so the audience would focus on the stage exclusively (meaning, him). But then he had his tech guys pump fog onto the stage throughout the concert. By the time the band came on (if you can call it a band; they have a drum machine) you could not see the guys. They were obscured by smoke. And after twenty minutes, the place was so full of smoke that the fire alarms went off, which triggered the house lights to come back on. Did this bother singer Andrew Eldritch? Not in the slightest. He kept mumbling to the music, still unseen, and did NOT have his guys turn off the damn foggers, so that he could continue to appear (or not) to be a SERIOUS IMPORTANT artist. The staff managed to turn the alarms off once, but because the smoke kept coming, the lights went back on and stayed on. People started filing out halfway through the show. They had enough of the guy’s ego trip.

  4. You Just Made My List!on 19 Nov 2008 at 9:14 am

    Pete, My band opened for Sisters of Mercy about 5 years ago and Andrew Eldritch was a total dick. It was at a venue that seats something like 2,500 people and I think they sold about 800 tickets.

  5. civilchickon 19 Nov 2008 at 10:18 am

    Ugh this same shit happened to me when I went to see clapton. I coulda punched him in the fucking face (had I been able to get down from my nose bleed seating safely) when he did the same solo/unknown song bullshit. I realize he’s super-fucking-dee-duper famous but seriously play something I can sing to or at least recognize. That asshat played 3 songs that I knew and one was a hendrix cover…he’s still alive today only because he played the original version of layla.

  6. Markon 19 Nov 2008 at 10:31 am

    Ditto, WTF? I have seen the Pumpkins twice before last night and was blown away…now, I will never go to another Pumpkins concert again. See my thoughts at http://www.nowinchicago.com

  7. You Just Made My List!on 19 Nov 2008 at 10:31 am

    Civilchick, That still sounds better than what I saw last night. AT least Clapton was playing songs. Billy Corgan suddenly thinks he is in a Japanese-art-rock-noise band. They were literally just making noise and fucking around. After playing one “song” for 30 minutes he told the crowd that other cities just didn’t get it. If he hates everyone so much he should just quit. God, I wish I had the whole show on video, it was so pathetic.

  8. deadlytoqueon 19 Nov 2008 at 10:37 am

    I’ve always head Corgan was a d-bag, and so that doesn’t surprise me. The Pumpkins headlined a festival I went to when they were farewelling back in 2000, but I left early because I can’t stand their over-worked pretentious wankery, and never have been able to.

    My worst concert experience had less to do with the main act (Metric, who rocked) but instead with the venue and opener. The venue was tiny, cramped, and oversold, and never bothered to turn off the INCREDIBLY bright LCD advertising screens that ran the length of the bar, thus obscuring the dark stage. The opener was one of those “mashup djs” who just plays two singles by different artists and blends between them. Now, I guess the best of these can be really good and get insanely popular, but this guy was shit. It was just three bars from a pop tune, and then three bars from a dance tune. Sometimes it would be the verses from a popular 70s rock song, and then the choruses would be blended together with some totally inappropriate modern dance tune.

    My worst -band- experience was at Edmonton Folk Festival in 2005 (I think). Hawksley Workman was headlining the Saturday mainstage, and I’m a pretty big Hawksley fan, so I travelled the 400 km to see the man play. On the stage before him was Aaron Neville, who is a pretty decent showman himself. Neville, however, stayed on stage 20 minutes after Hawksley was supposed to start. So, given that there’s roughly a 15-minute break between acts to do setup, and EFF is really strict about shooing everyone out on time, that means he basically shortened Hawksley’s act by 35 minutes… out of a 75 minute set. Aaron Neville may be big shit, but that’s just bad form, to essentially steal another artist’s stage time like that.

  9. You Just Made My Anus!on 19 Nov 2008 at 12:01 pm

    Ouch! I’ve always been a big fan of the Pumpkins. Go watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsZYqaSc4cU Then go ahead and cry. It’s ok.

  10. deathon 19 Nov 2008 at 3:28 pm

    I love the pumpkins, but when I saw them last at V Festival this year in Sydney we walked out half way through the set after listening to a 15 minute guitar solo. Although they did play about 6 recognisable songs before he went off in a tangent.

  11. Threetoesofuryon 20 Nov 2008 at 9:33 am

    I saw the Pumpkins wed night show in chicago. I do understand the critiques and anger from fans whom just came to see the pumpkins play a best-of show.
    I certainly was bummed that they didnt play several songs which i wanted to hear. However let me offer a different take……

    The show was exceptional. The band has grown to include 2 keyboardists, a violinist, and a couple dudes on horns. The stage setting was trippy with sweet light shows throughout. The venue was amazing. And the most important thing…the music…..they peppered their nights setlist with several ‘classics’ (my fav being a rockin Siva) but spent more time with lesser known tunes and, yes, some long quirky solos. Where there songs that I (and many) didnt connect with, you bet, however there were several tunes that i heard for the first time that i really dug.
    Say what you will about Billy but the guy clearly gives a sh@t about his music and his band and they put on a 3 hour show….i repeat, a 3 hour show! Frankly i’ll take that
    over them coming in, playing an hour of hits, and leaving.
    I certainly look forward to seeing them again.

  12. You Just Made My List!on 20 Nov 2008 at 9:49 am

    Threetoesofury, My main complaint was how arrogant and rude Billy Corgan was during the concert. This show was his big middle finger right in your face. He basically admitted to this several times throughout the show as he rambled on and on about how he just can’t ever make anyone happy. He’s saying this to a sold out room of people who love and support him. Cry my a river you big baby. It was a disgusting spectacle of what fame does to some people.

    I don’t mind a band branching out, experimenting and playing new songs and covers but that is not what they were doing. They were punishing the fans for some unknown reason. They (he) wanted to prove something. He thinks he’s more important than he his. They’ve written some great songs but Corgan acts like he’s Bowie and how dare anyone want to hear a hit song at a concert. I’m sorry Billy but that is your audience for the most part. You aren’t playing the empty bottle. You have to deal with being a mainstream rock star or get off the stage.

    I’m honestly glad you enjoyed yourself, I’m not trying to convince you otherwise but I think 90% of the audience would agree with me. In fact, every stop on this tour is receiving identical, negative reviews.

    Thanks for commenting and offering up the other side.

  13. clson 20 Nov 2008 at 7:49 pm

    I could not agree with you more. I would have listened to anything, any new stuff at all, that smashing pumpkins would want to play except kazoos, tweetie birds, corgans weird drum solo?? and finally the now famous 20 minute rant at the audience that is included in every show. Great P.R. stunt, marketing genius, its shameful that it seems to be working.?? Please die hard fans stop writing good reviews and do us all a favor. I could of saved myself a lot of money because I paid extra to sit in the front row to experience the abuse eyeball to eyeball. The band members eyes are lifeless holes with hardly a spark looking like robotic drones. How during these tough times could overpaid people hate their jobs so much???? People just don’t need this kind of crap with the economy the way it is, bordering on depression, we have to pay to listen to his problems?? get a shrink corgan and next time entertain us since that’s what we paid for…

  14. DJon 21 Nov 2008 at 6:35 am

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  15. Joeon 21 Nov 2008 at 5:09 pm

    Remember me? Nah, im done with that discussion. Just wanted to let you know that I had also seen them live, and it is quite an experience. I saw them in Ashville NC, they played for around three hours before Corgan went solo on an acoustic. They were playing indoors in a room about 200 by 200 ft. Second to none- the best Concert I have ever seen, and Incubus live was pretty good, but it couldn’t measure up to Billy jamming out.

  16. Joeon 21 Nov 2008 at 5:12 pm

    The reason for my last comment, is because the way you are describing them seems just a lil outta character. Maybe they were just having a bad night. Cuz they jammed out in Ashville.

  17. Joeon 21 Nov 2008 at 5:14 pm

    On re-evaluating your description I am wrong, perhaps he was on crack?

  18. You Just Made My List!on 21 Nov 2008 at 5:23 pm

    Hey Joe, I wanted to like the show but sadly I am not alone in my opinion of the show. The tour reviews have been almost unanimous. I’m sure Billy is a nice guy in real life, in fact I know he is (was) because he used to be my neighbor, but he was really shitting on the fans with that mess the other night.

  19. clson 21 Nov 2008 at 9:45 pm

    Hey, I can’t afford over $5oo for him to have a bad night, can you???

    I am jealous if you got a good show! Remember that I am or was a fan. reading corgans lyrics brought my husband to tears. He even read and liked his poetry. We both smiled and laughed and were polite in the front row but we both had lumps in our throats because we knew were being cheated, abused and treated in a way we didn’t understand or deserve. Don’t be like corgan, have a heart and get what some people are trying to say. We are not making this up though I wish I was, really since you have no idea how much the show meant and how much we could of used a break in our stressful lives. I am glad for you that you got a good show, truly, BUT can you be sad for me because we didn’t…???

    We are taking the time to discredit corgan in the hopes that people may reconsider a major purchase and may not take the chance to be as disappointed as we were especially if unprofessional billy is having a bad night. Also maybe a person would still go to the show but just buy cheaper tickets. Isn’t that a nice thing to do??? Hopefully he does everyone a favor next time and cancels the show. By the way my young son who is a fan walked out 1/2 way through the show and was sickened by the whole thing too so its not just two older people too dumb to get the new music scene. Give us music and we will get it.

    Why don’t you die hards support the people who got a bad show so corgan takes responsibility, becomes more professional and stops making excuses that it is our fault, that he can’t make his fans happy because they only want the old songs, grows up or whatever is up his___ Wouldn’t that help everyone get the best performance out of him?? That’s all we want and all we paid for right? If he gets away with what he pulled on tues night in chicago then we can just expect more of the same and everyone including corgan loses, right? Your hometown could get screwed by him while your at the show. I thought the reviews, in general were far to nice since I think it was the worst performance ever and at least if he was on crack there may be a good reason for crap because laying on the stage passed out would have been a better show. At least I could understand that. Maybe that will be billys next P.R. stunt and hopefully it won’t be in Ashville.

  20. Joeon 22 Nov 2008 at 6:31 pm

    that sucks dude. Sorry to hear it, something similar happened to me, I went up to Clemson University just to see Breaking Benjamin who came out on stange, rambled for about ten minutes, then called it a set, luckily 3 Days Grace came out and jammed. Oh and I Wasn’t trying to infer that you didnt get music. I wasn’t trying to say that you guys were wrong about him, I was trying to say that I am sorry for you, because when he does come out to play, its amazing. Don’t give up on him, he was just being a tool that night. But it is a damn shame that he chose that night in particular to act that way.

  21. clson 22 Nov 2008 at 8:17 pm

    joe- I hear ya but I won’t take another chance with smashing. I even find it hard to believe when you say he’s amazing but I know you are probably right. I am still venting over a real bad night and you know until now I really didn’t even know there was such a thing as a bad concert, front row. How is that possible???
    I think these bands forget what it is like to be a fan and spend hours getting tickets and everything else to get to a show just to be let down. You were lucky that the BB fiasco was in the beginning of the night since you got to leave on a high. I think that helps. smashing was like leaving a funeral. no joke, never seen or felt anything like it after the show…
    thanks for the reply

  22. Peteon 24 Nov 2008 at 9:58 am

    My brother confirmed that Billy was a baby at the CLeveland show. However, my brother is a big Pumpkins fan and was content to hear whatever Billy played, even if the “hits” were ignored. He did confirm that Billy insulted the crowd and fans who called for “hits.”

  23. deirdreon 02 Dec 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Thank god someone else noticed! I would consider myself a fairly big fan of SP, and went to see them last year for the Zeitgeist tour. I was disappointed to say the least, most of it just seemed to be like filler material. They’re supposed to be playing for us, they have plenty of time to play for themselves..